Doug Carnine is a Professor Emeritus of Education at the University of Oregon, who is the founder of a project called Feed Kindness Starve Harm. In connection with that, he has published two books this year on the inner workings of mindful kindness. One is How Love Wins: The Power of Mindful Kindness, and the other is Saint Badass: Personal Transcendence in Tucker Max Hell, which arises out of correspondence with prisoners in a maximum security prison in Arkansas. He also will offer seminars on the subject through Sponsors, Inc. in Eugene. He talks with KLCC's Eric Alan about applying mindful kindness to the holiday season, and to times of personal and political division.